instance, and i would like to know if this is different in iraq verses afghanistan, if i were a trader atrainer, -- a trainer, i would be saying there are corruption and a lot of places. he cannot have corruption the police and military because they are your fourth line of defense. i would be saying to the policymakers, wouldn't it be nice to have a loyal army? you have been -- what is your capability of influence in afghanistan? who would you talk to? can you talk to the afghan government? can you talk to the american government? timmy, that is a key issue. it makes everything you do succeed or fail. -- to me, that is a key issue. >> mr. chairman, our points of contact or entry is purely for the state department. i cannot talk about how i can influence or we can influence policy. we do provide information whether we think the training is going well, if there needs to be changes, what ever we think is going on with the program. we can and do provide that information both to our customer, inl, and to the end user in both countries. i cannot comment what happens with that information and developi